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== Mins & Maxes etc. ==
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Are you sure two-handed weapons go up to 57 max? I have seen 56 on a few rare occasions, but never 57.--[[User:Neyne|Neyne]] 16:43, 10 January 2012 (EST)
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: Yep, I had a few M57 pops of twohanded weapons, but not of hafted, only actual twohanders. As for spears, the highest I've seen is M55. -- [[User:WinterRose|WinterRose]] 16:53, 10 January 2012 (EST)
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Moonblade (at least the one I have) is a level 15-ish weapon, not hero. I've provided the details from a recently aquired one.
 
Moonblade (at least the one I have) is a level 15-ish weapon, not hero. I've provided the details from a recently aquired one.
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This may refer to a different Moonblade item, though I'm not aware of any, so I'm guessing that it was placed here by mistake.  There is already a gear page for the Moonblade Dagger.  I've taken the liberty of removing your duplicate entry.
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Thanks - I should have done a search first before editing. Will keep that in mind next time...
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The table looks good, but a bit long.  Perhaps we could divide it into two sections.  One for single handed weapons, one for two handed weapons.  --[[User:Morgul|Morgul]] 15:33, 12 December 2006 (CST)
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== Recommended Table Proposal ==
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This table is too cluttered but I'm not familiar with enough of them to remove those that should not be there. Feel free for someone with more knowledge to remove and then we can put on the Hero Melee Weapons page. I also struggled on how to sort (Name? HR? DR? Weight?) so settled on DR.
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{| border="2" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" align="center" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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| '''Name'''
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| '''[[Object Level|Level]]'''
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| '''[[Hit Roll|HR]]'''
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| '''[[Damage Roll|DR]]'''
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| '''[[Object Weight|Weight]]'''
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| '''Weapon Type'''
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| '''Damage Type'''
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| '''Notes'''
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|-
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| [[Wamphyri War Gauntlet]]
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| 51
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| 5
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| 5
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| 28
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| [[:Category:Standard One-Handed Weapons|One-Handed]]
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| [[:Category:Melee Weapons That Slash|Slashing]]
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| Int +2
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|-
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| [[Vorpal Blade (Apocalypse)]]
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| 51
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| 7
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| 7
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| 6
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| [[:Category:Standard One-Handed Weapons|One-Handed]]
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| [[:Category:Melee Weapons That Slice|Slicing]]
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| no drop, no remove
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|-
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| [[Elite Guard's Sword]]
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| 51
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| 5
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| 8
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| 10
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| [[:Category:Standard One-Handed Weapons|One-Handed]]
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| [[:Category:Melee Weapons That Slice|Slicing]]
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| Needs fading
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|-
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| [[Chained Sickle]]
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| 51
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| 9
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| 9
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| 10
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| [[:Category:Chain Weapons|Chain]]
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| [[:Category:Melee Weapons That Slash|Slashing]]
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|
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|-
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| [[Ancient Dwarven Dagger]]
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| 51
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| 9
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| 9
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| 3
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| [[:Category:Concealable Weapons|Concealable]]
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| [[:Category:Melee Weapons That Pierce|Piercing]]
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|
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|-
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| [[Spear Of Igecsoz]]
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| 51
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| 9
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| 9
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| 4
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| [[:Category:Hafted Weapons|Hafted]]
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| [[:Category:Melee Weapons That Pierce|Piercing]]
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|
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|-
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| [[Wooden Spear]]
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| 51
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| 9
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| 9
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| 4
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| [[:Category:Hafted Weapons|Hafted]]
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| [[:Category:Melee Weapons That Pierce|Piercing]]
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|
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|-
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| [[Toxic Stiletto]]
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| 51
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| 9
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| 9
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| 2
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| [[:Category:Standard One-Handed Weapons|One-Handed]]
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| [[:Category:Melee Weapons That Pierce|Piercing]]
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| Poisoned weapon, no remove
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|-
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| [[Spiked Warhammer]]
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| 51
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| 9
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| 9
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| 15
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| [[:Category:Standard One-Or-Two-Handed Weapons|One-Or-Two-Handed]]
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| [[:Category:Melee Weapons That Crush|Crushing]]
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|
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|-
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| [[Sharp Short Sword]]
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| 51
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| 7
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| 10
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| 4
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| [[:Category:Standard One-Handed Weapons|One-Handed]]
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| [[:Category:Melee Weapons That Pierce|Piercing]]
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|
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|-
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| [[Huge Sword Of Justice]]
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| 51
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| 7
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| 10
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| 50
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| [[:Category:Standard Two-Handed Weapons|Two-Handed]]
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| [[:Category:Melee Weapons That Slash|Slashing]]
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|
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|-
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| [[RedTooth Cutlass]]
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| 51
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| 7
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| 10
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| 7
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| Unknown
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| Unknown
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| Str +1
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|-
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| [[Nephilim Blade]]
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| 51
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| 9
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| 10
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| 9
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| [[:Category:Standard One-Handed Weapons|One-Handed]]
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| [[:Category:Melee Weapons That Pierce|Piercing]]
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| Wis +2, Int +2
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|-
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| [[Tourach's Sword]]
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| 51
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| 9
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| 10
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| 10
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| [[:Category:Standard One-Handed Weapons|One-Handed]]
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| [[:Category:Melee Weapons That Pierce|Piercing]]
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| Con +2, Dex +2, needs fading
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|-
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| [[Swirling Black Mass Of Chaos]]
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| 51
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| 10
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| 10
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| 13
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| [[:Category:Ethereal Weapons|Ethereal]]
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| [[:Category:Melee Weapons That Slice|Slicing]]
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| Wis +2, Int +2
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|-
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| [[Black Scythe Called, "Terror"]]
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| 51
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| 10
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| 10
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| 13
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| [[:Category:Hafted Weapons|Hafted]]
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| [[:Category:Melee Weapons That Slice|Slicing]]
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| Con +2, Str +2, needs fading
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|-
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| [[Baron's Sword]]
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| 51
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| 10
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| 10
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| 13
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| [[:Category:Standard One-Handed Weapons|One-Handed]]
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| [[:Category:Melee Weapons That Stab|Stabing]]
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| Dex +2, Str +2
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|-
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| [[Fine Katana Sword]]
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| 51
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| 10
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| 10
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| 13
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| [[:Category:Standard One-Handed Weapons|One-Handed]]
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| [[:Category:Melee Weapons That Slice|Slicing]]
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|
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|-
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| [[Heavy Black Dagger Called, "Virus"]]
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| 51
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| 10
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| 10
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| 13
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| [[:Category:Standard One-Handed Weapons|One-Handed]]
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| [[:Category:Melee Weapons That Pierce|Piercing]]
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| Con +2, Str +2, needs fading
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|-
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| [[Thin Black Sword Called, "Gaunt"]]
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| 51
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| 10
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| 10
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| 13
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| [[:Category:Standard One-Handed Weapons|One-Handed]]
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| [[:Category:Melee Weapons That Pierce|Piercing]]
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| Con +2, Str +2
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|-
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| [[Sword Of Avengers]]
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| 51
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| 10
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| 10
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| 13
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| [[:Category:Standard One-Handed Weapons|One-Handed]]
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| [[:Category:Melee Weapons That Pierce|Piercing]]
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| Con +2, Str +2, needs fading
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|-
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| [[Giant Red Sword Called, "Conquest"]]
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| 51
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| 10
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| 10
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| 13
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| [[:Category:Standard Two-Handed Weapons|Two-Handed]]
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| [[:Category:Melee Weapons That Slash|Slashing]]
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| Con +2, Str +2, needs fading
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|-
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| [[Kra's Battleaxe]]
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| 51
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| 10
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| 10
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| 20
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| [[:Category:Standard Two-Handed Weapons|Two-Handed]]
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| [[:Category:Melee Weapons That Chop|Choping]]
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|
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|-
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| [[Maelstrom, Sword Of The Balrog]]
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| 51
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| 10
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| 10
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| 16
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| Unknown
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| [[:Category:Melee Weapons That Slash|Slashing]]
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| Str +1, needs fading
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|-
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| [[Heavy Sword]]
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| 51
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| 3
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| 11
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| 30
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| [[:Category:Standard Two-Handed Weapons|Two-Handed]]
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| [[:Category:Melee Weapons That Stab|Stabing]]
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|
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|-
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| [[Mighty Claws]]
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| 51
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| 9
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| 11
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| 30
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| [[:Category:Double Weapons|Double]]
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| [[:Category:Melee Weapons That Slash|Slashing]]
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| Needs fading
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|-
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| [[Sceptre Of Igecsoz]]
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| 51
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| 9
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| 11
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| 5
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| [[:Category:Double Weapons|Double]]
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| [[:Category:Melee Weapons That Crush|Crushing]]
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| Con +2, needs fading
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|-
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| [[Barbed Steel Mace]]
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| 51
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| 9
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| 11
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| 5
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| [[:Category:Standard One-Handed Weapons|One-Handed]]
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| [[:Category:Melee Weapons That Crush|Crushing]]
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|
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|-
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| [[Dark Flaming Blade]]
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| 51
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| 9
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| 11
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| 12
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| [[:Category:Standard One-Or-Two-Handed Weapons|One-Or-Two-Handed]]
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| [[:Category:Melee Weapons That Slice|Slicing]]
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|
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|-
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| [[Short, Black Wooden Pike]]
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| 51
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| 12
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| 12
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| 8
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| [[:Category:Hafted Weapons|Hafted]]
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| [[:Category:Melee Weapons That Stab|Stabing]]
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| Needs fading
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|-
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| [[Naginata]]
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| 51
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| 13
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| 13
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| 8
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| [[:Category:Hafted Weapons|Hafted]]
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| Unknown
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| Needs fading
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|-
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| [[Heavy Spear, "Ocean"]]
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| 51
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| 10
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| 15
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| 24
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| [[:Category:Hafted Weapons|Hafted]]
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| [[:Category:Melee Weapons That Pierce|Piercing]]
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|
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|-
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|}
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--[[User:Ylem|Ylem]] 14:54, 12 December 2006 (CST)
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Here's my take.  I sorted primarily on weapon type, then damage type, DR, etc etc.  Also removed a lot of weapons that I can't see myself recommending to anyone short of a desperate newb lowhero.  Also, that talk above about a moonblade is referring to the [[Moonsabre]], a weapon that makes nice offhand fodder due to its low weight (2 lbs iirc).  It comes from the golden web portion of [[:Category:Idolatry Of Lloth|idolatry]].  Not sure if it was nerfed to be 2-handed or anything since the last time I fetched one.  [[User:Waite|Waite]] 15:48, 12 December 2006 (CST)
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{| border="2" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" align="center" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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| '''Name'''
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| '''[[Object Level|Level]]'''
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| '''[[Hit Roll|HR]]'''
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| '''[[Damage Roll|DR]]'''
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| '''[[Object Weight|Weight]]'''
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| '''Weapon Type'''
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| '''Damage Type'''
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| '''Notes'''
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|-
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| [[Sharp Short Sword]]
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| 51
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| 7
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| 10
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| 4
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| [[:Category:Standard One-Handed Weapons|One-Handed]]
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| [[:Category:Melee Weapons That Pierce|Piercing]]
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|
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|-
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| [[Nephilim Blade]]
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| 51
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| 9
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| 10
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| 9
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| [[:Category:Standard One-Handed Weapons|One-Handed]]
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| [[:Category:Melee Weapons That Pierce|Piercing]]
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| Wis +2, Int +2
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|-
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| [[Tourach's Sword]]
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| 51
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| 9
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| 10
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| 10
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| [[:Category:Standard One-Handed Weapons|One-Handed]]
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| [[:Category:Melee Weapons That Pierce|Piercing]]
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| Con +2, Dex +2, needs fading
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|-
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| [[Heavy Black Dagger Called, "Virus"]]
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| 51
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| 10
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| 10
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| 13
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| [[:Category:Standard One-Handed Weapons|One-Handed]]
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| [[:Category:Melee Weapons That Pierce|Piercing]]
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| Con +2, Str +2, needs fading
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|-
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| [[Thin Black Sword Called, "Gaunt"]]
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| 51
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| 10
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| 10
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| 13
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| [[:Category:Standard One-Handed Weapons|One-Handed]]
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| [[:Category:Melee Weapons That Pierce|Piercing]]
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| Con +2, Str +2
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|-
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| [[Sword Of Avengers]]
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| 51
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| 10
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| 10
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| 13
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| [[:Category:Standard One-Handed Weapons|One-Handed]]
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| [[:Category:Melee Weapons That Pierce|Piercing]]
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| Con +2, Str +2, needs fading
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|-
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| [[Dark Flaming Blade]]
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| 51
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| 9
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| 11
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| 12
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| [[:Category:Standard One-Or-Two-Handed Weapons|One-Or-Two-Handed]]
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| [[:Category:Melee Weapons That Slice|Slicing]]
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|
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|-
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| [[Baron's Sword]]
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| 51
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| 10
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| 10
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| 13
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| [[:Category:Standard One-Handed Weapons|One-Handed]]
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| [[:Category:Melee Weapons That Stab|Stabbing]]
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| Dex +2, Str +2
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|-
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| [[Fine Katana Sword]]
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| 51
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| 10
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| 10
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| 13
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| [[:Category:Standard One-Handed Weapons|One-Handed]]
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| [[:Category:Melee Weapons That Slice|Slicing]]
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|
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|-
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| [[Barbed Steel Mace]]
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| 51
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| 9
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| 11
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| 5
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| [[:Category:Standard One-Handed Weapons|One-Handed]]
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| [[:Category:Melee Weapons That Crush|Crushing]]
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|
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|-
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| [[Spiked Warhammer]]
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| 51
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| 9
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| 9
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| 15
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| [[:Category:Standard One-Or-Two-Handed Weapons|One-Or-Two-Handed]]
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| [[:Category:Melee Weapons That Crush|Crushing]]
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|
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|-
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| [[Chained Sickle]]
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| 51
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| 9
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| 9
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| 10
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| [[:Category:Chain Weapons|Chain]]
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| [[:Category:Melee Weapons That Slash|Slashing]]
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|
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|-
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| [[Mighty Claws]]
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| 51
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| 9
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| 11
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| 30
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| [[:Category:Double Weapons|Double]]
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| [[:Category:Melee Weapons That Slash|Slashing]]
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| Needs fading
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|-
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| [[Sceptre Of Igecsoz]]
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| 51
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| 9
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| 11
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| 5
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| [[:Category:Double Weapons|Double]]
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| [[:Category:Melee Weapons That Crush|Crushing]]
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| Con +2, needs fading
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|-
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| [[Heavy Spear, "Ocean"]]
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| 51
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| 10
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| 15
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| 24
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| [[:Category:Hafted Weapons|Hafted]]
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| [[:Category:Melee Weapons That Pierce|Piercing]]
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|
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|-
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| [[Naginata]]
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| 51
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| 13
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| 13
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| 8
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| [[:Category:Hafted Weapons|Hafted]]
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| Unknown
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| Needs fading
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|-
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| [[Short, Black Wooden Pike]]
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| 51
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| 12
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| 12
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| 8
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| [[:Category:Hafted Weapons|Hafted]]
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| [[:Category:Melee Weapons That Stab|Stabbing]]
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| Needs fading
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|-
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| [[RedTooth Cutlass]]
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| 51
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| 7
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| 10
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| 7
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| Unknown
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| Unknown
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| Str +1
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|-
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| [[Maelstrom, Sword Of The Balrog]]
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| 51
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| 10
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| 10
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| 16
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| Unknown
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| [[:Category:Melee Weapons That Slash|Slashing]]
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| Str +1, needs fading
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|-
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|}

Latest revision as of 16:53, 10 January 2012

Mins & Maxes etc.

Are you sure two-handed weapons go up to 57 max? I have seen 56 on a few rare occasions, but never 57.--Neyne 16:43, 10 January 2012 (EST)

Yep, I had a few M57 pops of twohanded weapons, but not of hafted, only actual twohanders. As for spears, the highest I've seen is M55. -- WinterRose 16:53, 10 January 2012 (EST)


Moonblade (at least the one I have) is a level 15-ish weapon, not hero. I've provided the details from a recently aquired one.

This may refer to a different Moonblade item, though I'm not aware of any, so I'm guessing that it was placed here by mistake. There is already a gear page for the Moonblade Dagger. I've taken the liberty of removing your duplicate entry.

Thanks - I should have done a search first before editing. Will keep that in mind next time...


The table looks good, but a bit long. Perhaps we could divide it into two sections. One for single handed weapons, one for two handed weapons. --Morgul 15:33, 12 December 2006 (CST)


Recommended Table Proposal

This table is too cluttered but I'm not familiar with enough of them to remove those that should not be there. Feel free for someone with more knowledge to remove and then we can put on the Hero Melee Weapons page. I also struggled on how to sort (Name? HR? DR? Weight?) so settled on DR.

Name Level HR DR Weight Weapon Type Damage Type Notes
Wamphyri War Gauntlet 51 5 5 28 One-Handed Slashing Int +2
Vorpal Blade (Apocalypse) 51 7 7 6 One-Handed Slicing no drop, no remove
Elite Guard's Sword 51 5 8 10 One-Handed Slicing Needs fading
Chained Sickle 51 9 9 10 Chain Slashing
Ancient Dwarven Dagger 51 9 9 3 Concealable Piercing
Spear Of Igecsoz 51 9 9 4 Hafted Piercing
Wooden Spear 51 9 9 4 Hafted Piercing
Toxic Stiletto 51 9 9 2 One-Handed Piercing Poisoned weapon, no remove
Spiked Warhammer 51 9 9 15 One-Or-Two-Handed Crushing
Sharp Short Sword 51 7 10 4 One-Handed Piercing
Huge Sword Of Justice 51 7 10 50 Two-Handed Slashing
RedTooth Cutlass 51 7 10 7 Unknown Unknown Str +1
Nephilim Blade 51 9 10 9 One-Handed Piercing Wis +2, Int +2
Tourach's Sword 51 9 10 10 One-Handed Piercing Con +2, Dex +2, needs fading
Swirling Black Mass Of Chaos 51 10 10 13 Ethereal Slicing Wis +2, Int +2
Black Scythe Called, "Terror" 51 10 10 13 Hafted Slicing Con +2, Str +2, needs fading
Baron's Sword 51 10 10 13 One-Handed Stabing Dex +2, Str +2
Fine Katana Sword 51 10 10 13 One-Handed Slicing
Heavy Black Dagger Called, "Virus" 51 10 10 13 One-Handed Piercing Con +2, Str +2, needs fading
Thin Black Sword Called, "Gaunt" 51 10 10 13 One-Handed Piercing Con +2, Str +2
Sword Of Avengers 51 10 10 13 One-Handed Piercing Con +2, Str +2, needs fading
Giant Red Sword Called, "Conquest" 51 10 10 13 Two-Handed Slashing Con +2, Str +2, needs fading
Kra's Battleaxe 51 10 10 20 Two-Handed Choping
Maelstrom, Sword Of The Balrog 51 10 10 16 Unknown Slashing Str +1, needs fading
Heavy Sword 51 3 11 30 Two-Handed Stabing
Mighty Claws 51 9 11 30 Double Slashing Needs fading
Sceptre Of Igecsoz 51 9 11 5 Double Crushing Con +2, needs fading
Barbed Steel Mace 51 9 11 5 One-Handed Crushing
Dark Flaming Blade 51 9 11 12 One-Or-Two-Handed Slicing
Short, Black Wooden Pike 51 12 12 8 Hafted Stabing Needs fading
Naginata 51 13 13 8 Hafted Unknown Needs fading
Heavy Spear, "Ocean" 51 10 15 24 Hafted Piercing

--Ylem 14:54, 12 December 2006 (CST)


Here's my take. I sorted primarily on weapon type, then damage type, DR, etc etc. Also removed a lot of weapons that I can't see myself recommending to anyone short of a desperate newb lowhero. Also, that talk above about a moonblade is referring to the Moonsabre, a weapon that makes nice offhand fodder due to its low weight (2 lbs iirc). It comes from the golden web portion of idolatry. Not sure if it was nerfed to be 2-handed or anything since the last time I fetched one. Waite 15:48, 12 December 2006 (CST)

Name Level HR DR Weight Weapon Type Damage Type Notes
Sharp Short Sword 51 7 10 4 One-Handed Piercing
Nephilim Blade 51 9 10 9 One-Handed Piercing Wis +2, Int +2
Tourach's Sword 51 9 10 10 One-Handed Piercing Con +2, Dex +2, needs fading
Heavy Black Dagger Called, "Virus" 51 10 10 13 One-Handed Piercing Con +2, Str +2, needs fading
Thin Black Sword Called, "Gaunt" 51 10 10 13 One-Handed Piercing Con +2, Str +2
Sword Of Avengers 51 10 10 13 One-Handed Piercing Con +2, Str +2, needs fading
Dark Flaming Blade 51 9 11 12 One-Or-Two-Handed Slicing
Baron's Sword 51 10 10 13 One-Handed Stabbing Dex +2, Str +2
Fine Katana Sword 51 10 10 13 One-Handed Slicing
Barbed Steel Mace 51 9 11 5 One-Handed Crushing
Spiked Warhammer 51 9 9 15 One-Or-Two-Handed Crushing
Chained Sickle 51 9 9 10 Chain Slashing
Mighty Claws 51 9 11 30 Double Slashing Needs fading
Sceptre Of Igecsoz 51 9 11 5 Double Crushing Con +2, needs fading
Heavy Spear, "Ocean" 51 10 15 24 Hafted Piercing
Naginata 51 13 13 8 Hafted Unknown Needs fading
Short, Black Wooden Pike 51 12 12 8 Hafted Stabbing Needs fading
RedTooth Cutlass 51 7 10 7 Unknown Unknown Str +1
Maelstrom, Sword Of The Balrog 51 10 10 16 Unknown Slashing Str +1, needs fading
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